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		<title>By: Recent Links Tagged With "onlinedesktop" - JabberTags</title>
		<link>http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-11237</link>
		<dc:creator>Recent Links Tagged With "onlinedesktop" - JabberTags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] public links &#62;&#62; onlinedesktop   Desktop 2.0 Saved by singerjonny on Fri 26-9-2008   Letem světem, internetem #1 Saved by verifex on Thu [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] public links &gt;&gt; onlinedesktop   Desktop 2.0 Saved by singerjonny on Fri 26-9-2008   Letem světem, internetem #1 Saved by verifex on Thu [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Esylum</title>
		<link>http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4840</link>
		<dc:creator>The Esylum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the meantime, this post should provide adequate installation instructions and a quick developer overview for those of you who have been asking. If you haven&#8217;t already done so, please read this article first. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the meantime, this post should provide adequate installation instructions and a quick developer overview for those of you who have been asking. If you haven&#8217;t already done so, please read this article first. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Esylum</title>
		<link>http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4425</link>
		<dc:creator>The Esylum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few weeks ago I wrote up a post explaining the rationale behind the idea. You can find it here: http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/. There is also a forum thread on the idea here.Please note that much of the information in the first [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few weeks ago I wrote up a post explaining the rationale behind the idea. You can find it here: <a href="http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/" rel="nofollow">http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/</a>. There is also a forum thread on the idea here.Please note that much of the information in the first [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Esylum</title>
		<link>http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4135</link>
		<dc:creator>The Esylum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 15:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] created a new branch of Screenlets on Launchpad for Universal Applets. Right now the branch is just the same a trunk, but I&#8217;ll be pushing a revision [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] created a new branch of Screenlets on Launchpad for Universal Applets. Right now the branch is just the same a trunk, but I&#8217;ll be pushing a revision [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ketil</title>
		<link>http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4114</link>
		<dc:creator>Ketil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put! 
I'm continuing to follow all the ground breaking stuff that is coming out of e.g. Screenlets, AWN and Compiz Fusion, and I'm disappointed of Gnome's lack of interest in paving new way on the desktop. I just don't get their conservative approach. It's coming to the point where I would've started using KDE if I hadn't been so used to Gnome.

Thanks for these words of wisdom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put!<br />
I&#8217;m continuing to follow all the ground breaking stuff that is coming out of e.g. Screenlets, AWN and Compiz Fusion, and I&#8217;m disappointed of Gnome&#8217;s lack of interest in paving new way on the desktop. I just don&#8217;t get their conservative approach. It&#8217;s coming to the point where I would&#8217;ve started using KDE if I hadn&#8217;t been so used to Gnome.</p>
<p>Thanks for these words of wisdom!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4013</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Owen, even without a server there still should be a universal applets format. What I'm working on is mostly based on the Screenlets API, and the server isn't absolutely necessary.

"After all a chance to rewrite something is a chance to get someone involved. :-)."
Well, if there's nothing to rewrite then people will simply find other ways to get involved such as improving the current code. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen, even without a server there still should be a universal applets format. What I&#8217;m working on is mostly based on the Screenlets API, and the server isn&#8217;t absolutely necessary.</p>
<p>&#8220;After all a chance to rewrite something is a chance to get someone involved. :-).&#8221;<br />
Well, if there&#8217;s nothing to rewrite then people will simply find other ways to get involved such as improving the current code. <img src='http://theesylum.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Owen Taylor</title>
		<link>http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-4012</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You definitely bring up a good point here: there are all sorts of people writing new ways to extend GNOME or replace elements of it (mostly in Python, for some reason or the other :-), and there is little or no coordination between the projects. Convergence would be really nice to see.

I do think it's possible to be over-concerned with people writing code multiple times, especially if the hard backend code can be encapsulated into shared libraries (weather =&#62; libgweather, window manager interaction =&#62; libwnck, etc.) After all a chance to rewrite something is a chance to get someone involved. :-). In general, I think it's a lot easier to write normal python libraries than to create a central "server" process. One of the ideas of the online-desktop project is to have libraries for getting data with change notification (the desktop-data-model) and a single http stack with shared cookies,etc (yet to be done)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You definitely bring up a good point here: there are all sorts of people writing new ways to extend GNOME or replace elements of it (mostly in Python, for some reason or the other :-), and there is little or no coordination between the projects. Convergence would be really nice to see.</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s possible to be over-concerned with people writing code multiple times, especially if the hard backend code can be encapsulated into shared libraries (weather =&gt; libgweather, window manager interaction =&gt; libwnck, etc.) After all a chance to rewrite something is a chance to get someone involved. :-). In general, I think it&#8217;s a lot easier to write normal python libraries than to create a central &#8220;server&#8221; process. One of the ideas of the online-desktop project is to have libraries for getting data with change notification (the desktop-data-model) and a single http stack with shared cookies,etc (yet to be done)</p>
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		<title>By: The Esylum</title>
		<link>http://theesylum.com/2008/02/01/desktop-20/#comment-3993</link>
		<dc:creator>The Esylum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] See this for an explanation of what Desktop 2.0 is. [...]</description>
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